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ZX2 Dedicated Discussion => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: xolilnikkixo on February 06, 2006, 12:51:18 PM

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Post by: xolilnikkixo on February 06, 2006, 12:51:18 PM
im gettin about 200 back... what should i do first to increase acceleration.. dont really need top speeds to do what little racin i do.. prolly increase my ricer look also... just for you guys... pics soon i promise... gotta get someone to take em... bc you want me and the car... not that i think anyone wants the car.. ;-)
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Post by: mirrorguardian on February 06, 2006, 12:55:42 PM
Get an underdrive pulley (UDP).
Then I would go for an intake upgrade or rear 19mm-22mm Sway bar.
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Post by: hkszx2 on February 06, 2006, 01:06:11 PM
i still got myintake for sale for 60 bucks +shipping it needs a filter tho
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Post by: zxtwou2 on February 07, 2006, 03:43:14 AM
i'm getting back 7203...what should i get  :lol:

actually, i'm paying off all my credit cards.  as for your 200...intake, UDP, or even a johnP ported intake manifold or chip!
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Post by: xolilnikkixo on February 07, 2006, 06:08:34 AM
wow why dont we rub it in... thats why it pays to be a kid lol... no bills!
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 07, 2006, 04:58:26 PM
I was going to get back nearly $1500 but due to my new job vs what was with held at my old one I made too much and it put me in a different tax bracket (god damnit) and now I'm getting back more like $800 instead :(

With 200 I'd recommend redoing your intake (you can do a resonator mod and get nearly as much as a regular intake, hell, just do an iceman from the TB to your stock air filter cover), and then an underdrive pulley (esslinger is the best from what I've heard so far, they also make VERY good quality parts for 2.3 SOHC and 2.0 DOHC engines, so I'd trust them), so that would put you at about $120-150 there, and with the other $50 or so I'd say find a used short throw on here or on teamzx2 in the classifieds, you can nab them for $40, I got mine (BRAND NEW CONDITION) B&M shifter for $40, and it's another $10 for the ES bushings.  Then you've got better intake, less stress/load on the engine which also due to the lightweight pulley vs it underdriving it all you'll have more hp and to top it off with a short throw you'll have more crisp and shorter shifts.

You'll be like "WTF, where did my Z go, this feels so much better."
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Post by: roushzx2 on February 07, 2006, 05:29:01 PM
Quote from: "KoiHoshi"
(you can do a resonator mod and get nearly as much as a regular intake, hell, just do an iceman from the TB to your stock air filter cover),."

 You finnally see it my way. lol Just kidding buddy sorry to hear about the taxes i got nailed the same way,
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Post by: Ironmark on February 07, 2006, 06:11:09 PM
yikes... hope I dont get hit wiht the higher bracket.. im right on the line......
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Post by: Yellow2000S/r on February 07, 2006, 08:11:30 PM
Im only gettin $36 back LOL. I changed how my checks were so I would get the money each paycheck instead of at the end of each year. I work part time and get paid crappy, hence the reason Im lookin for a new job...
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Post by: mirrorguardian on February 07, 2006, 09:15:50 PM
I'm in the same boat as Yellow.  $144.00 from Federal but owe $264.00 to State.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 07, 2006, 09:22:52 PM
I was told to just claim 1 by some tax pro guy, he said to just claim 1.
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Post by: Yellow2000S/r on February 08, 2006, 03:39:51 AM
I only claimed 1 also. That way I get the money and spend it right away. (actually my mother was the one that filled out the taxes part of my aplication, and now im kinda mad b/c Im not getting the expected money at the end of the year like last year).
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Post by: tigress on February 08, 2006, 07:01:57 AM
I have yet to find out what I am getting back. Still waiting on my W2s from the club that I worked at. I would have them if the idiots would have changed my address when I gave it to them :x . I went in there to pick them up and they were like "They should be in your mail box"  I was like "I don't live there anymore" Now I have to wait for the mail to send them back my W2s and for them to send them to my correct address. Grrrrr! If I don't get them by the end of the month I am going in there and raising hell.
Anywho I hope to get enough back to cover Darron's wedding band which I need to get still. That is if I don't get screwed over because The Emporium wasn't taking out Federal Tax. I pointed that out to them and they didn't do anything, so hell will again be raised if I end up oweing money. Oy....I hate stupid people....

-Miranda
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Post by: Pip on February 08, 2006, 09:29:31 AM
I'm thinking about $800... unfortunately, all of that will go to the broke ass Bimmer, and only pay off 1/3 of it.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 08, 2006, 09:43:48 AM
I was considering paying off the last bit of the zx2 with my returns but it's almost paid off so i'll just save it for something better and let my credit build :)  If i can sell my cheesy as mustang i have now I'll be getting a 65-69 this summer :)  That 302 is just chilling on my engine stand begging for a rebuild and some power parts and a car to enjoy it's meaty 5.0 litres of beauty :)
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Post by: Ironmark on February 08, 2006, 09:57:39 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im coming to oregon to help you build it!!!!!!
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 08, 2006, 10:10:11 AM
do it! :)

My plans are...

4 speed conversion (only IF the car is an auto when I buy it, hopefully we find a manual), build the 302 to at least 350-400hp, going black with silver accents with an interference red pearl over the basecoat and then clearcoat it.  Interior will be black leather with silver accents.  Just a standard black medium tint.  I'm going to paint the engine itself with a metallic silver with a red pearl over it and do a 500 degree rated clearcoat over that, the rest is gonna be CHROME.  i just want a stealthy looking oldschool badass looking mustang :) and this II isnt' cutting it.
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Post by: Ironmark on February 08, 2006, 12:12:53 PM
lol... never really liked the looks of the mustang II's.

LOVE the 64.5-69's though. I acutally want to do a similiar project here, however I dont have a garage. there are PLENTY of mustangs in this area though in that year.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 08, 2006, 12:18:55 PM
Lots of them around here too, ESPECIALLY in prineville, there is a green one been sitting in this guy's yard for EIGHT YEARS, just chilling... hanging out, not doing a damn thing.  I think this summer I'll make him an off her he won't refuse I'm hoping and rescue the poor pony.
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Post by: xolilnikkixo on February 08, 2006, 12:38:33 PM
btw i dont have a standard
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 08, 2006, 12:41:14 PM
You meah you drive an automatic? yick... well, you could always swap.
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Post by: roushzx2 on February 08, 2006, 01:13:17 PM
she could always do a level 10 tranny.
and whats wrong w/ atx :x
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Post by: mirrorguardian on February 08, 2006, 01:33:17 PM
Yeah...what's wrong with an ATX?

I'm 6 foot tall, which is average for males, so that means I barely fit in the Zx2.  The steering well is all the way up and my thighs still rub.  The seat is pretty far back and reclined, so no friend of mine can fit behind me.  So the back bench a big cushion shelf for me.

Now they didn't make it easy for guys my size by putting the shifter so low. To reach the shifter out of Park I have to bend my back a little.  It would be so awkward reaching for the shifter and pushing the clutch in. So a MTX would drive me crazy and forget about getting a short shifter.  I guess that's why I don't mind my Talon being a MTX, because the shifter is already chest high.

Level 10 would be the way to go if you have an ATX.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 08, 2006, 01:46:56 PM
Nothing wrong with a level 10, but you can't squeeze much out of a level STOCK auto, you'll need a level 20 wizard for a level stock tranny with lots of hp because it'll take MAGIC for it not to bust :)

Stock is stock and can only hold so much.  It's like squeezing a grapefruit, you keep squeezing with your bare hands, you can squeeze it a bit, but apply too much force and it'll go POP and crap goes everywhere.  My boss I worked with used to say "An engine is like a balloon, except with 2 holes instead of one, the more you get into it the bigger it gets, you have to balance what goes in with what goes out, you push it too far and POP, the tranny is no different, it's only as strong as the middle man putting it to the ground, most the time the middle man is where your weakness lies."

A little modification to stock auto won't hurt but going into making it a race car and she'll have to spend the money on what you did, you said yours is rated at 300hp, but that's a level 10, not stock :)  I'd still rather drive a stick but to each his own, auth a level 10 auto i can only imagine how nice that would be for drag and consistent shifts, hehe.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 08, 2006, 01:48:51 PM
Quote from: "mirrorguardian"
Yeah...what's wrong with an ATX?

I'm 6 foot tall, which is average for males, so that means I barely fit in the Zx2.  The steering well is all the way up and my thighs still rub.  The seat is pretty far back and reclined, so no friend of mine can fit behind me.  So the back bench a big cushion shelf for me.

Now they didn't make it easy for guys my size by putting the shifter so low. To reach the shifter out of Park I have to bend my back a little.  It would be so awkward reaching for the shifter and pushing the clutch in. So a MTX would drive me crazy and forget about getting a short shifter.  I guess that's why I don't mind my Talon being a MTX, because the shifter is already chest high.

Level 10 would be the way to go if you have an ATX.


I'm 5'10", i hear ya, my head touches the ceiling.
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Post by: mirrorguardian on February 08, 2006, 02:08:04 PM
I'd swear the car was made for people who are 4'10" to 5'6".
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 08, 2006, 02:18:37 PM
LOL, this is true.  My fiance drives it every now and then and she's about 5'4" - 5'6", she's short, much shorter than me and fits in it like it was made for her.   Somehow though I have managed to drive my friend's Miata which is wayyyy smaller than the ZX2 with no trouble, though my knees were at the steering column.... I love small cars though.
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Post by: Foos Fight on February 08, 2006, 02:57:27 PM
I'm about 5'11" and I love the Z.  I keep the seat at the factory recline, though it's pushed all the way back...I fit fine...my hair will hit the headliner sometimes, but other than that....  

- Darron
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Post by: Ironmark on February 08, 2006, 03:08:47 PM
i find it so uncomfortable straight up and down! Im 5'8" and have hit my head on the ceiling going over some bad bumps. even when reclined.

When I got into the accident with my red 02 zx2 I never even touched the airbag I was back so far..

level 10 is the way to go if you have an automatic. there might be a shift kit out there other then the level 10 but im not aware of any that are specific to our trannies.
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Post by: Yellow2000S/r on February 08, 2006, 06:43:37 PM
Quote from: "mirrorguardian"
I'm 6 foot tall, which is average for males, so that means I barely fit in the Zx2.  The steering well is all the way up and my thighs still rub.  The seat is pretty far back and reclined, so no friend of mine can fit behind me.  So the back bench a big cushion shelf for me.

Quote from: "KoiHoshi"
I'm 5'10", i hear ya, my head touches the ceiling.


1st of all, im almost 6'1" and my legs are close to the steering wheel. My seat has like 3-5 notches left before it is slid back all the way and my seat isnt very tilted. Now explain to me how you are 5'10" and your head touches the ceiling... I have a good 2" between my head and ceiling. Are you sitting STRAIGHT up? Otherwise you would have to be in the back seat to hit the ceiling.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 08, 2006, 06:55:32 PM
Indeed i do sit straight up, I don't feel comfortable sitting way back all leaned "gangster like" i like to sit up.
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Post by: Yellow2000S/r on February 08, 2006, 07:38:29 PM
I dont sit "straight" back or with a "gangsta lean." Its not very tilted.
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Post by: Ironmark on February 08, 2006, 08:25:22 PM
im not saying what im doing in the backseat!!!!!!!!!!! lol!!!!

I said over bad bumps i hit the celing which is good cause I try not to hit bad bumps.
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Post by: mirrorguardian on February 08, 2006, 09:48:42 PM
Before you start flaming people Yellow, remember not everyone is the same proportionally.

If you have short arms and longer legs, you are going to sit differently than someone with short legs and long arms.  It's whatever you feel comfortable with.  By no means does that mean have your head vertically over the steering wheel or reclined so far back you are looking out your moon roof.

If I push my leg straight that would put the pedal to fht floor, so I might be a little closer than you.  But I don't like my arms completely bent with only a foot between me and the steering wheel (Picture a little old granny style).
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Post by: Foos Fight on February 08, 2006, 11:32:38 PM
I don't think he's flaming, just confused as am I.  Just seems hard to believe that someone the same height (or shorter) can be rubbing the headliner when I(we) aren't.  

- Darron
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Post by: lostdog13 on February 09, 2006, 04:38:31 AM
Quote from: "Yellow2000S/r"
I only claimed 1 also. That way I get the money and spend it right away. (actually my mother was the one that filled out the taxes part of my aplication, and now im kinda mad b/c Im not getting the expected money at the end of the year like last year).


I always claim one less than actual...this year claimed two on W-4, three on file...next year will be 3 and four when filing...you get more back during the year, but it insures that you will not pay at the end of the year...
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Post by: xolilnikkixo on February 09, 2006, 06:25:35 AM
I'm 5'4 so no problems here!  :D  but anyways... this level 10 business... cost?? i really just want acceleration... no top speed needed... and yes i drive an automatic... mainly bc i dont know how to drive a stick... never tried...
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 09, 2006, 08:03:33 AM
Quote from: "Foos Fight"
I don't think he's flaming, just confused as am I.  Just seems hard to believe that someone the same height (or shorter) can be rubbing the headliner when I(we) aren't.  

- Darron


If you don't believe that when I sit straight up that my head touches then I can take pictures if it's an all-mighty wonder of the universe, lmao
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Post by: Ironmark on February 09, 2006, 08:15:03 AM
i think they were talking about me. but it is true I have hit the headliner before going over some big bumps.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 09, 2006, 08:15:10 AM
Quote from: "xolilnikkixo"
I'm 5'4 so no problems here!  :D  but anyways... this level 10 business... cost?? i really just want acceleration... no top speed needed... and yes i drive an automatic... mainly bc i dont know how to drive a stick... never tried...


More than $200.

Try $2464.00 for a "bulletproof" stage 2 transmission from Level 10.
The torque converter is $698.00

However, roush said it's a mix of level 10 and focus parts or something? So I'm not sure how his is, but you're looking at over $2000 easy.  I was told by "dropped ZX2" off of team zx2 who has built his to roughly 300whp that he had an auto that held about 160-170hp before it busted where as his mtx held nearly 250hp without it breaking.  He has modified things since then.
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Post by: mirrorguardian on February 09, 2006, 08:54:38 AM
Yeah...Level 10 is expensive but depends on what you value.

My understanding is that you could push more than 160-170hp out of your ATX if you add a transmission cooler.  Probably not much more and of course you are still limited to the strength of the gears themselves.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 09, 2006, 08:57:00 AM
Well you could technically CRYO freeze the stock tranny and add about 10% reliability to that, but that's still expensive in itself and it's still only going to take so much.

I still say I want a batch of mach 3 blades that have been cryo frozen, bwahaha  :twisted:
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Post by: tigress on February 09, 2006, 04:01:43 PM
I have a automatic. I wanted a stick but had to settle because I really needed a car. That was the only thing I settled on though. Darron was the one who taught me how to drive a 5-speed:) I like it. Still a little uncomfy driving it completly by myself though because not all that used to it. Thinking about switching the trannies but by the time we can afford to do that we might just get a Mazda6 or something that is already a manual.
I am 5'4. No problems:) I love it! I keep my seat back far enough to where Darron is able to drive my car without having to make any adjustments. But, I can reach the pedals just fine. When I drive his car I have to move the seat up more that way I can get the clutch all the way in.

-Miranda
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 09, 2006, 05:03:02 PM
Yeah my fiance has to move the seat up, wayyyyy up to drive the zx2, feels like a midget was driving when i step back in, lol!
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Post by: roushzx2 on February 09, 2006, 05:58:07 PM
Quote from: "KoiHoshi"
Quote from: "xolilnikkixo"
I'm 5'4 so no problems here!  :D  but anyways... this level 10 business... cost?? i really just want acceleration... no top speed needed... and yes i drive an automatic... mainly bc i dont know how to drive a stick... never tried...

More than $200.

Try $2464.00 for a "bulletproof" stage 2 transmission from Level 10.
The torque converter is $698.00.


I paid 3700 when every thing was sais and done with labor, parts, bell housing, but to me it was worth it i dont have to worry abouyt the tranny anymore.I've put 70k HARDCORE miles on it not to mention NOS and have had NO probs. No slipping nothing but good smooth shifts since
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 09, 2006, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: "roushzx2"
Quote from: "KoiHoshi"
Quote from: "xolilnikkixo"
I'm 5'4 so no problems here!  :D  but anyways... this level 10 business... cost?? i really just want acceleration... no top speed needed... and yes i drive an automatic... mainly bc i dont know how to drive a stick... never tried...

More than $200.

Try $2464.00 for a "bulletproof" stage 2 transmission from Level 10.
The torque converter is $698.00.

I paid 3700 when every thing was sais and done with labor, parts, bell housing, but to me it was worth it i dont have to worry abouyt the tranny anymore.I've put 70k HARDCORE miles on it not to mention NOS and have had NO probs. No slipping nothing but good smooth shifts since


Expensive, but definitely worth it and I would agree.  If one is willing to spend the money to do it, it's totally worth it, but it's that factor of spending it that most people won't take.  That's a lotttttt of money.
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Post by: roushzx2 on February 09, 2006, 06:39:15 PM
To me its worth it i love the car and i wanted to keep it and be able to beat on it from time to time
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 09, 2006, 06:56:10 PM
Quote from: "roushzx2"
To me its worth it i love the car and i wanted to keep it and be able to beat on it from time to time


Then 100% worth it :)
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Post by: Foos Fight on February 09, 2006, 11:01:34 PM
Tigress pointed out something to me today when I was driving her car tonight to the store for dinner.  The reason I may not have an issue sitting straight up is that I have a moon roof.  That allows for some extra melon clearance.

- Darron
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Post by: xolilnikkixo on February 10, 2006, 06:11:34 AM
so would it better be called a "melon roof"?? lol just tryin to add some humor... i suck i know...  :cry:
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Post by: Ironmark on February 10, 2006, 10:43:51 AM
w3rd!!!!

thats what all you tall people should do for a mod...... put a round hump on the roof that your head will fit into nicely!!!! lol!!!
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Post by: zx2angel on February 10, 2006, 04:12:25 PM
We are getting back 2700.So ima going tint the windows on my new car.And try to find a matching racing seat for the zx2.The rest is for bills
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Post by: mirrorguardian on February 10, 2006, 08:46:12 PM
$2700  How about some Cams?
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Post by: tigress on February 11, 2006, 05:27:32 AM
LOL!!   :lol: . Mark that's funny! I got a kick out of it anyway.

-Miranda
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Post by: Pip on February 11, 2006, 07:30:59 AM
Quote from: "Ironmark"
thats what all you tall people should do for a mod...... put a round hump on the roof that your head will fit into nicely!!!! lol!!!


They call those "Gurney Bubbles" because American race god Dan Gurney is like, 6'1", and he was too tall to fit into most little European racers, especially with helmet... hence they added the bubble for helmet clearance. Take a look at the Viper if you want to see an example.

Sorry... I'm a racing geek. I know it.
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 11, 2006, 02:03:43 PM
Psh, I'm gonna do a 10ft tall spoiler and 20" wheels with type r stickers all over it, I figure that's worth at least 700hp  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Foos Fight on February 13, 2006, 12:48:18 PM
 Koi's got the right idea!  Rice it out baby!! :?

- Darron
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 13, 2006, 03:09:24 PM
Booyah! You know it, man all I gotta get is a muffler tip big enough to fit a folgers coffee can in it and I'll be MADE!

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Foos Fight on February 13, 2006, 03:51:08 PM
Forget the coffee can...try to get your HEAD in there!!!

- Darron
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Post by: KoiHoshi on February 13, 2006, 03:53:09 PM
OH YEAH! Then it'll sound like a ROCKET! :lol:
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Post by: Pip on February 15, 2006, 11:07:27 PM
Or a flatulent hippo.